Stone-Brewer Race gets Nasty
As anticipated. Looks like the run-off has already begun for Stone's people. Found this when I looked at the Brewer Blog this morning:
Brewer Yard Signs Stolen
This morning, before noon, our supervolunteer Helen Nagel came into our office. Normally, this wouldn't be surprising, but Helen has recently been undergoing radiation treatments. She looked distraught, so we were immediately concerned.
"They took 'em," she said. This morning, Helen told us, she looked out her window and noticed the Brewer yard sign she had personally placed in her neighbor's yard was missing. As she continued looking down the block, she noticed that all the Brewer signs were gone. Worse, she finally realized that her own yard sign had been stolen.
Helen told us this with a tear in her eye. "Why would they do this?" she asked.
Throughout the day, we continued to get reports of stolen Brewer campaign signs. Ellen Adelman sent us an email about all the stolen signs on "the 6500 N. block of Talman (West side of street)." Alan Aberman reports his lawn signs missing this morning, and Frank and Margarita Klein noticed that the signs they had this morning were missing this afternoon.
It appears that hundreds of dollars of Brewer campaign signs have been appropriated by someone's campaign. Apparently, they don't have enough signs in the ward, and they need ours, as well!
I had previously heard of Brewer signs in front of Jewish homes being taken before the weekend. It's getting serious!
posted by Jay @ 8:03 AM
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53 Comments:
Certain Candidates for this election are neglecting to campaign in certain areas.
I assume they have some strategy, but Brewer signs and information is absent from many parts of the ward, I see Stone signs everywhere. I've even seen isolated Dolar signs, and Aftab signs as well.
I hope Brewer has some strategy.
I hope there is proof the accusations that the current Alderman had something to do with this. It not very professional or wise to make accusations with out proof.
We understand that Stone and his minions want to stiffle Free Speech. We see plenty of evidence here.
What this is a carefully -crafted and executed DIRTY TRICK by the brewer "campaign team"--here is the play-they arranged for unknowns to remove their signs to create the situation-then they yell that the Stone campaign did it--their own supporters(really only a small/vocal minority) think the "ogres"did it--then they run with the ball creating a false issue--hows that for TRANSPARENCY--they lie to their own and "vandalize"their own supporters
Wow, stealing their own signs. Damn, those Brewer supporters are clever!
Next they'll probably trick their supporters into voting for Stone.
Honestly this is really funny.
Both sides respectively, this goes on? wow, I never thought this actually does go on! Brewer stealing his own signs, Stone making the signs disappear. Intereasting!
seeing no evidence of either negative campaigning or dirty tricks by the STONE camp,one can only conclude that the poster who exposed brewers vanishing sign plot is on to something--
I wasat a neighbors house last night when the subject of the campaign in the 50th ward came up.My neighbor and her husband described the strange young man who rang their bell on behalf of greg brewer.When he started ,as they described,a venomous diatribe against stone,the husband said that he asked the door bell ringer where in the ward he lived, he hesitated and than said he lived in the 48th ward and was from some alphabet named group.What are these outside agitators being told to say against stone?It seems like they come from a parallel universe
"Outside agitators"... Gee, where have I seen that phrase before?...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_from_Birmingham_Jail
of course its getting nasty!the brewers are led by a self described political"gunslinger"whose sign caper is as clear as looking up, and seeing the sky.
The only sign I have seen Alderman Stone workers remove over the last 20 years werethesignofthe opposition left up after election night as the oppisition workers hurried back to other parts of the city or the burbs.
See we live here long after election day.
Stealing your own campaigns signs ? I seriously doubt that.
Sign stealing is very common in all types of elections. It happens all the time. My personal thought is to never, never steal a sign from the lawn of a single family home. Anything on public property is fair game.
If a family decides to but a campaign sign in their yard, chances are they will vote for that candidate. If the sign is stolen, that family is still going to vote for that candidate regardless if the sign is there or not.
I just don't see any competent campaign management team deciding to waste their time and energy to steal their own signs. With the ground practically frozen, it will be difficult to put them back in the yards. It makes no sence.
Then again it could be the work of "Capsman", or some other wacko that is not directly associated with the Stone campaign.
posted by:
Mad Dog
MAD DOG-I REALLY THOUGHT YOU WERE NOT NAIVE-GUESS I OVER-ESTIMATED YOUR POLITICAL ACUMEN-DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY WOULDNT STEAL THEIR OWN SIGNS TO CREATE A FALSE ISSUE AND RALLY-POINT-BUT YOU DO KNOW THAT-YOU JUST PLAY DUMB-MAYBE YOU HAD IT DONE TO HAVE EVERYONE ELSE FIRING AT EACH OTHER DENIAL IS NOT A RIVER IN EGYPT
welcome back capsman .you are the voice of the true 50th ward:those who know we have chicagos best and hardest working alderman.you are speaking for many when you expose the bigotry the opponents of stone are bringing here.
jewish homes?!what does that mean?do brewers people know which are jewish homes?i heard they were biggotted left wing fascists but now i am afraid that they want to create a 50thward mini-reich jewish homes!wow
super volunteer helen nagel is super hater helen nagel--and why does helen hate stone to the point that she got all those signatures for brewer(if they were legitimate)it certainly isnt brewers fascinating personality and he has no real issues except anti-stonism
THE BREWER CAMPAIGN OF HATE AND LIES IS IMPLODING SO THEY HAVE COME UP WITH THEIR OWN MISSING SIGN CAPER-THE NEXT SIGN THAT CASTS A VOTE WILL BE THE FIRST!
if there were signs missing perhaps it was kids or the dolar or aftab people. aftab has been waging a campaign that is solely based on signs and removal of opposition signs by intimidation, it serves either or both to have the other two fighting it out. dolar has some sophisticated pros running her campaign and is receiving much covert outside support.
Damn, busted. Yesterday, after I intentionally burned my own breakfast, I drove my car straight into a telephone pole on the way to work, where I fired myself so I'd have the afternoon free to steal my own candidate's yard signs. And I did it all on the back of a magical flying dragon that blew small puffs of fire to keep me warm. Yeah, that's what happened!
hmmm we seem to think that our signs do our campaign a lot more good when they're out in the ward and not in our basements. although i think it's brilliant that u found a way to turn this whole thing around and say that we stole our own signs! but why would we want to rally the people who we had already rallied with a positive message of change, inclusiveness and accountabilty? The signs are a show of support and having them out is a sign of pride for us. To be completely honest, the thought of stealing the signs out of my own lawn never even crossed my mind. I've heard of throwing a brick through ur own campaign office window because that would bring cameras and real exposure, but stolen signs? it's like the dispatcher told me "thats politics". and Berny is just playing politics as ussual. you dont hold on to a seat for 34 years by playing nice. and anyone who thinks he does is just a zealot nut.
In the 50th Ward there is no need to create a "False issue". With all the endorcements Brewer is getting there is no need to create a "flase rallying point".
posted by:
Mad Dog
--the way i read the posters comment,the signs were
probably taken,but by people brought in for the purpose ,all to create a false issue and lead people to believe, falsely,that stones people did it.
SO,THE CARPETBAGGING MAD DOG,SUDDENLY HAS AN INTEREST IN PROMOTING THE BREWER FAKE SIGN CAPER.PERHAPS HE SHOULD CREATE A COMMITEE FOR THE WELFARE OF SIGNS IN A WARDS HE HAS NO STAKE IN .CONSIDERING HIS CANDIDATE HAS A COMPAIGN CONSISTING OF SIGNS AND INTIMIDATION PERHAPS HIS INEREST IN SIGNS IS NOT IN PASSING--HE WHO PROTESTETH TOO LOUD MAD DOG
what really is fun to watch is how brewers people react to the exposure of their false-flag sign caper with the usual lefty response to a probable self inflicted act:scorn,derision,and sarcasm
this just proof that Stones people are the equivalent to religious zealots; havent you ever heard of a Occam's Razor? That which is the simplest answer is probably the correct one? So which is more probable, that the Brewer campaign set up an elaborate plot to spread their signs all over the ward just to remove them, some in broad daylight, and create a so-called publicity stunt though any PLSC 101 student can tell you that no media outlet cares about stolen signs, and pin it on the alderman; or that the alderman, who's as machine as they come, used one of the oldest tricks in the book, one that he's used before even, and just got rid of his competitors signs? I think it's obvious that the latter sounds a lot more sensible.
LOU WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE THAT THE "GUNSLINGER"S WOULDNT EVER DO THAT-THATS WHY THEY DID IT-FOR THE PRICE OF A FEW SIGNS EASILY REPLACED;,THEY RECENTLY ORDERED A LARGE AMOUNT!,LOOK AT THE PLAY THEY GET AND THE ANGER LEVEL BEING RAISED- ALL MEANT TO FIRE UP AN ALREADY HATE-DRIVEN CAMPAIGN THAT IS FAILING
you know what CAPSMAN? I just exposed you for what you are, a zealot for whom Stone can do no evil or say no evil because he just a poor little old man that everyone beating up on, not the wannabe mob boss who uses intimidation and threats to push his opponents around. Grow up and open your eyes and get out of Bernies campaign office every once in a while and you'll see a completely different ward then the one that have constructed in your imagination.
Also, our initial order was more than enough to compensate for the signs that now sit in dumpsters in his precinct captains' alleys.
and i love your logic that we did it because we know you know that we wouldnt do it. But because we know that you would know that we would do it, it wouldnt make sense for us to do it. you follow me, or do i have to write it IN CAPS! GRRR!
sweet lou vs capsman-yes sir finally a fair fight.lou knows capsman has the play figured out and his ridicule is pure cover
LOU I KNOW YOU WOULD DO IT AND MOST LIKELY DID
but because i know that u know that i would do it, that served as a deterent, oh plus Bernies people beat me to it, sneaky bastards.
LOU-DENIAL IS NOT A RIVER IN EGYPT
actually, it's called "The Nile". I guess you should open a geography book if your gonna be locked up all day in Berny's campaign office.
anyways, CAPSMAN, i got class tomorrow morning, so i got more important things to do than sit in front of a comp and argue with a college kid hahaha. peace be with you.
If some has proof who took the signs like an witness then present the proof. Otherwise stop trying to blame another campaign for missing signs
If Brewer is for open, ethical an accountable leadership, this blame game is not the way.
Since this is Mr. Brewer's first experience in a municipal election-both participating and voting-Uncle Berny has this to say:
"This is Chicago. Welcome to the NFL."
Clearly there are too many Stone staffers with not enough to do other than flood the blogs. Must be nice for you tools. Get a real patronage job!
Whatsamatta Stoners, not enough garbage on the streets to keep you busy in your streets and san jobs?
The Stoners are all too lazy and fat to do any real work. Like Alan Crown who just likes to cruise around the neighborhood in his 92' Lincoln Towncar. Got news for you, fatty-boom-batty: you ain't no gangster, pal.
TO BEGIN WITH MR.CROWN ,ALDERMAN STONE,AND ILANA ARE BETTER PEOPLE THAN YOU STONE-BASHERS WILL EVER BE.AND FOR YOUR INFORMATION ALAN HAS A 2001 MERCURY,NOT A 1992 LINCOLN
uncle berny's favored one said...
Since this is Mr. Brewer's first experience in a municipal election-both participating and voting-Uncle Berny has this to say:
"This is Chicago. Welcome to the NFL."
Well stated, I noticed that myself about Greg's voting record. I can't understand why someone would not vote in a municipal election and the very next cycle run for office.
I don't quite remember, but does Brewer have a primary voting record ? D or R is not the issue for me, participation in the voting process matters.
The same question should be asked of the other campaigns as well.
Go Bears !
posted by:
Mad Dog
NOW THE POST BY MAD DOG re:BREWERS VOTING RECORD WAS SO ON TARGET THAT CENSORSHIP IS NOW BACK----REMEMBER THE MEDIA READS THESE BLOGS AND YOUR CREDIBILITY ISSUE IS UNDER THE SPOTLIGHT.WITH CENSORSHIP YOU ARE A COMPLETE ARM OF THE BREWER CAMPAIGN AND YOUR SITE WILL BE MERELY A BREWER ELECTRONIC CLUBHOUSE.
Oh Mad Dog- you make me laugh. You know darn well that Brewer has a voting record. Therefore, he has in fact, voted. That's more than what we can say about that savage you've been trying to show case with unsuccessful results.
Wow- would it be that much of a surpise if we found out that Sal "The Slime" Aftab was the one who was stealing Brewer and Stone signs?! God forbid that a man who has an arrest record for assault and battery as well as a website dedicated to smearing Stone should actually be accused of stealing petty signs.
Slip that bum his immigration papers and change your stripes Mad Dog. You of all people were advocating a platform (in previous posts) where all 3 candidates should go after Stone--the carmaraderie and unity amongst the challengers. Yet, you casually slip in your insidious remarks about Brewer's voting record knowing very well that he's got a tremendous lead over the others.
Please--don't try to hustle us. You're not the only street kid on the block.
Oh Mad Dog- you make me laugh. You know darn well that Brewer has a voting record. Therefore, he has in fact, voted. That's more than what we can say about that savage you've been trying to show case with unsuccessful results.
Wow- would it be that much of a surpise if we found out that Sal "The Slime" Aftab was the one who was stealing Brewer and Stone signs?! God forbid that a man who has an arrest record for assault and battery as well as a website dedicated to smearing Stone should actually be accused of stealing petty signs.
Slip that bum his immigration papers and change your stripes Mad Dog. You of all people were advocating a platform (in previous posts) where all 3 candidates should go after Stone--the carmaraderie and unity amongst the challengers. Yet, you casually slip in your insidious remarks about Brewer's voting record knowing very well that he's got a tremendous lead over the others.
Please--don't try to hustle us. You're not the only street kid on the block.
mad dog, your just being doged
who is Mad Dog and who cares?
bobby b
It would be wise to know the facts before you make comments that are slightly outlandish. Re-read my post, it specifically talks about municipal elections and primary elections only.
My post states that I could not remember if Brewer had a voting record. If my memory is correct I do not believe he voted in the last municipal election.
Sal Aftab has a primary voting record and is not afraid to tell the world if he votes for a Democrat or Republican. For Sal's municipal voteing record, I believe he voted in the last municipal election (but I'm not sure).
Finally, I have not worked for Sal Aftab since 12/28/06. I could be put back on the payroll at any time but that decission is not mine to make.
I am proud to have worked for Sal Aftab for the time I did. I learned many things about the 50th Ward. I was able to provide Sal with some valuable tools that have benefited his campaign.
If I were to seriously advocate an attack on Greg Brewer, it would be alot harder hitting than his voting record. I hold the same principals as I did in the past, Concentrate on Stone.
The Naisy Dolar people are not screaming foul about my comments concerning her election report.
Politics takes thick skin, next.
posted by:
Mad Dog
mad dog,you and aftab are a match made in----
10:54 am
Stone, Aftab, Brewer, Dolar or any other candidate I'd work for would be a benefit to that campaign.
I am proud of what I bring to any table I sit at, and humble enough to admit mistakes I make or short falls I have.
I am not a coward that hides behind a fake name or "anonymous".
I am a free agent, willing to work for those that will pay for my talents. I am currently a paid consultant for 6 different municipal campaigns in Maine, Proviso and Leyden Townships.
Sal Aftab was a big help for the Tony Peraica campaign in the 50th Ward. When it came time to put up or shut up, Sal Aftab stood proudly with Tony Peraica. I am thankfull for Salman's efforts.
posted by:
Mad Dog
I cannot imagine stealing campaign signs from outside of a private residence. I know that sign-stealing is a common practice, kind of like taking the mascot of the rival team before homecoming. But I have a hard time seeing a serious campaign stooping to that.
Mad Dog wrote:
Finally, I have not worked for Sal Aftab since 12/28/06. I could be put back on the payroll at any time but that decission is not mine to make
He goes on to say:
My post states that I could not remember if Brewer had a voting record
Well if you don't remember, then why did you say it ? Are you trying to imply something ? Are you trying to make the Brewer camp cring with your ambiguous assumption ? It seems like you just want to instigate an attack based on false credibility yet not take the blame for it, hence the I "don't remember."
Mad Dog goes on to state that he hasn't worked for Aftab since 12/28/06. But I'm not sure if I believe that considering a lot of his blogs which appear to be defending and advocating Aftab came after 12/28. Here's just a few:
"Sal Aftab was a big help for the Tony Peraica campaign in the 50th Ward. When it came time to put up or shut up, Sal Aftab stood proudly with Tony Peraica. I am thankfull for Salman's efforts."--On this blog
"Frank Coconate ? Frank has nothing to do with the Aftab campaign, (at this point). Frank is working for Dorothy. Both Frank and Sal worked for Tony Peraica out of the 50th Ward neighborhood. Take it from me, their relationship is no where as close as some think."
1/19/07
http://blogs.chicagoreader.com/politics/2007/01/18/chicagos-oldest-profession/
"It should also be clear that Mr. Aftab is against any new TIF's. He seems to believe that the creations of TIF's, over the last few years........."
"Sal wants tranparency and accountability in development and citizen input throughout the process."
January 10, 2007
http://fightinthe50th.blogspot.com/2007/01/new-year-brings-changes.html
"A hot temper, The 50th needs a fighter that is passionate about the needs of their residents." January 12, 2007. http://fightinthe50th.blogspot.com/2007/01/new-year-brings-changes.html
So you want us to believe you ? You want me to keep going Mad Dog ? Cause I can do this all night.
bobby b:
Do what ever the heck you want to do bobby b.
Mr. Aftabs Pre election Report will reflect that I am no longer on his payroll. I remain on good terms with him and because I knew (a term used in the past tense) his platform well, I helped others to understand it.
You see bobby b, most people are ignorant, (that simply means that a person does not know any better), and I was able to help them know the facts. Kind of like I am doing for you here, because you are nothing more than ignorant to the facts.
About Greg Brewers voting Record: I am not going to get into a discussion about semantics, any inelligent person should know and understand a disclaimer when they see one. Greg Brewers voting record is a matter of public record. The public records I see show Brewer voted in the 2002 General, (no primary vote in 2002) Democrat in 2004 Primary and voted in the 2004 General. His participation in the election process is 50% at best. No municipal election voting record, and he did not vote in the 2006 Primary.
bobby b, unless you rode the small bus to school and are mentally retarted, you should be able to comprehend the above sentences without any further explanation.
posted by:
Mad Dog
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