Thursday, February 22, 2007

Stone Stunt Backfires

Willow9 asked for my perspective on Ald. Stone's receiving of what I would call hate-mail:

I believe in Occum's Razor. The simplest solution is probably the best. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that Berny Stone, or one of his cronies, are behind the letter that he used for publicity purposes yesterday. We see some of that here, on this blog. All of the references to hate-mongering and Nazis have come from Stone supporters. Given the heated rhetoric of this race, it is surprising, shocking even, that none of this has come from Stone opponents. The anti-Jewish rhetoric, or illusions to such, have all come from Stone's people.

It's worse if you saw the postings that have been moderated.

Stone and his supporters have been trying to create a spector of anti-Jewish fervor to distract from the fact that this race is all about Stone's record. If Stone was serving all the people in all the neighborhoods in the 50th Ward, he'd barely have any competition. Those candidates who are running against Berny Stone all take issue with Stone's job performance, not Stone's ethnicity.

The second piece of evidence here is the zip code where this letter was mailed. 60659. This is a MAJOR Jewish section of the ward. It is also the home of Stone's aldermanic office. It's inconceivable to me that a Nazi sympathizer would be living in the midst of a significant orthodox Jewish community. It is much more likely that Berny Stone or one of his cronies sent this piece of mail.

The final piece of the puzzle is the fact that Stone refused to give this to the police. In the very least, Stone should have had it examined for fingerprints. I would want to know if there was someone so crazy in our midst. You'd expect Stone would want to know, too.

Stone used this stunt for publicity, in the attempt to solidify the Jewish community behind him. Plain and simple, Stone ramped up the tensions in the ward for his own purposes. That's sick.

Does this fit the pattern of Stone and his cronies, Willow asks? Yes, it does. Stone has manipulated ethnic politics from the beginning. He is capable of manipulating our emotions and increasing the tensions in our neighborhoods, and he has repeatedly done that.

That's a shame. Me, I'm voting for Greg Brewer to end 30-odd years of racial politics. Only Brewer will be able to unite us under a common vision for the future of our community. We need someone who refuses to employ ethnic or racial politics so that we can see ourselves as more than our religion, ethnicity, or race. Only Greg Brewer offers us that possibility. Only Greg Brewer can united us. I hope you will join me in supporting Greg. Let the healing begin.


At February 22, 2007 9:46 AM, Blogger Hugh said...

> ... Stone refused to give this to the police.

Aftab made some charges about influence peddling in front of the Tribune editorial board, and Stone's glib reply was "you should take it to the authorities."

Aldermanic candidates Editorial Board interviews

around minute 26

At February 22, 2007 10:56 AM, Anonymous willow9 said...

Thanks for the response JS. I still seem to remember another illusion that Stone used in another election, maybe'03.
I was not aware that Stone refused to hand over the evidence. I guess it would be a must if he were to press charges, so...why wouldn't he press charges? Maybe he thinks he's gonna win and he can re-use it in 2011.

At February 22, 2007 2:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh so Stone must have sen himself the letter or a supporter did. Yes of course but Brewer could not have posible stole his own signes? Hugh Willow9 JS I would say you logic if flawed but there is no logic to your arguement.

Pleae please identify when this occured before 03, 99, 95, 91? I been involved in all and the only such business was in 91 when A Mr. Rubin Worker was caught red handed stealing Stone literature.

At February 22, 2007 3:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LETS GET REAL!! Who would you press charges against?? Stone said he was not pointing the fingure at any of the candidates. This was plain HATE mail. Do YOU actually believe the police could find a hate mailer?? They cant find killers and I dont believe they would waste time with hate mail. Where are your brains?? Your sitting on them !!

At February 22, 2007 4:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone see the handwriting on that mailer that Stone said he was sent? Looks suspiciously like a crotchety old man did it!!!

At February 22, 2007 4:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw the news broadcast last night with Dolar and Brewer, I was surprised that neither one of the candidates denounced the racial hate mail. I was going to vote for Brewer but why didn’t he say anything about racism and hate he had an opportunity and blew it. He lost my vote, last night

At February 22, 2007 6:22 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Naisy Dolar's website denounced the incident. This is from her website:

The statement below may be attributed to Naisy Dolar, Candidate, 50th Ward Alderman, following anti-Semitic mailings delivered to Alderman Stone's campaign office:

Any action or language that is intended to foster hatred or fear is unacceptable and won't be tolerated by me or the people involved in my campaign.

I've dedicated my career to making sure that we live in a society free of hatred and intolerance. This is why we need strong leadership in light of these allegations

There is no room in this neighborhood or in this city for such acts of intimidation and fear mongering. I stand with all people who have been victims of such racism in denouncing this 11th hour attack on my opponent.

At February 22, 2007 7:40 PM, Anonymous willow9 said...

No one said anything about the "hate mail" because it doesn't exist. You can't address something that is a fabrication and another excuse to draw peoples attention to Poor Berny. The neighborhoods so quiet. Nothin goin' on in the 50th. Thats what he wants all the residents to think. He's an actor in a menagerie and needs to pack up those animals and hit the road.
I can't respond to any more ignorant posters, it becomes a waste of time. Perhaps with all the time off they have coming up they can return to school and get an education.

At February 22, 2007 8:04 PM, Anonymous willow9 said...

from the devils dictionary(Ambrose Bierce)

An ingenious criminal who covers his secret thieving with a pretence of open marauding.

Yep. sounds like Stone.

At February 22, 2007 8:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the only peoople who have spread hate over the last 6 months in my neighborhood our Brewer and Dolar workers. Brewer campaign is based on spreading frear in the ward. Up till 2006 I never heard or seen any talk till he started to run for Alderman. Naisy yacks it up blaming everything except the great Chicago fire on Stone. Oh wait he to old to be Alderman but he must have fallen sleep and knocked over a latern to start the chicago fire?

Truth Had Brewer ever built anything in Chicago? All his opposition did to the Devon Rockwell project was delay it 6 months. He does not know or care about apartment renters ,condo owner or business.

I am sure some want to rush out and build a strip mall between 6400 and 6800 on Rockwell?

Now the hate mail must have been semt by Stone campaign? Wait no it must be Illana?

Bottom line will tell on Tuesday but if you think a freshman alderman in this ward is going to get anthing done in a Daley controlled city council it not going to happen. Its not going to happen JS Hugh willow9

At February 23, 2007 1:35 AM, Blogger Hugh said...

and Stone has us right where he wants us

let's see who can be most offended by what

let's see who does & doesn't denounce what

as if there are no issues

At February 23, 2007 6:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

if you think a freshman alderman in this ward is going to get anthing done in a Daley controlled city council it not going to happen.

HOLD ON! To blithely denounce a freshman alderman while a veteran alderman won't do anything? Sure!

Reminds of that song, "what you see is what you get and what you can't see is better yet!" Tina Turner sang it and she knew a thing or two about abusive old men.

At February 23, 2007 10:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is really getting sickening!Blame the victim? JS,you claim to be an observant Jew;history tells you that every persecution suffered by the Jews was blamed on them as having "brought it on".Whatever your PERSONAL grievance against Stone,for you to use the traditional tools of the JEW-HATERS of history is as despicable as it gets.You were once referred to,by another poster, as being similiar to the "JUDENRAT";your actions continue to give credence to that opinion. To make matters worse,you have allied yourself with a candidate who not only refuses to denounce the hate-crime against Stone,but whose campaign accuses Stone of doing ,personally.

At February 23, 2007 10:54 AM, Anonymous Doubting Stone said...

How many Jewish politicians does Illinois have?

How many of these Jewish politicians have had tough fights at some time or other?

How many of them have received hate mail using Nazi imagery?

If the answer is few to none, why is it that the only Jewish politician to get Nazi stuff right before an election is the guy representing one of the most heavily Jewish constituencies in the state?

While one can't be sure, it does seem likely that this mailing is a ploy by the Stone campaign or a Stone supporter to get Jewish voters to rally around him.

At February 23, 2007 11:17 AM, Blogger JS in the 50th said...

Politicians who seek to exploit people's feelings by playing the victim should not be considered victims. How many times does Stone have to pull out the Jewish card? He's Jewish. I'm Jewish. I'm voting based on Stone's record, and that's what Stone is trying to prevent.

At February 23, 2007 11:34 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


At February 23, 2007 11:43 AM, Blogger Hugh said...

> for you to use the traditional tools of the JEW-HATERS of history is as despicable as it gets.



the thing about the internet you don't seem to realize, your posts are forever

At February 23, 2007 12:30 PM, Blogger Hugh said...


No one is going to a pariah. When this is all over we will be neighbors. What is your problem?

At February 23, 2007 3:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


At February 23, 2007 4:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The real Forest Claypool Story
Claypool was a fundraiser for Daley when he decided it was time to reclaim his father’s Chicago. Then Forest goes to work for a true Reformer Pat Quinn then Illinois Treasurer and no ones friend in the corrupt democratic or republican party.
Then Pat Quinn runs on an anti corruption platform against then Secretary of State George Ryan. Its time for Claypool to come on. He leaves when Quinn needs him most to become Daley's chief of Staff. Daley then endorses his friend Ryan( the republican over) over that pesky Quinn. Quinn gets buried in a landslide. Corruption takes hold at city hall(Ryan goes on to become Governor) and of course Clayfool (like Sergeant Shultz in Hogan Heros), "knows nothing!". Nothing for 8 years, He's Mr. Clean after all and says “had he known any thing he would have demanded change or resigned”! Yea right! He then becomes head of the park district, makes Daley's friends richer by privatizing, while firing the African-American employees. Park Workers connected to white Cook County committeemen,like Mike Madigan, Burke, Mell, etc., get a pass. Now the park district which use to provide free programs for poor children in Chicago, says only those that pay can come out and play.
Calyfool,(who was then married}has an affair with a daughter of an prominent alderman who works for him at the park district. The good Catholic Daley finds out and demands he stop seeing her. Forest refuses and resigns in a huff. But Hey Forest is still Daley’s favorite so his career continues to sky rocket

Forest Flayfool is nothing but a Daley Stooge in his effort to ethnically cleanse this city

[8] Posted by: Spook | January 6, 2007 5:18 PM

At February 23, 2007 10:45 PM, Anonymous NBC_Says_Naisy Has_The_Best_Chance said...

Excerpt from NBC 5 story: Of all the challengers, political insiders said, Dolar was thought to have the best chance to beat Stone, Ahern reported.

At February 25, 2007 1:42 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't like the picture of Stone sleeping. I've seen him at evening meetings and anyone can close their eyes at a meeting. Brewer had my vote, but I am troubled by the Dolar ad I received stating that Brewer has not voted in local elections? Has he responded to this?

At February 25, 2007 1:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

what i want to know is how naisy can say that her campaign does not foster hatred when one of her main supporters (willow9 aka wendy) is the biggest hater of them all?? all she knows how to do is hate on every blog?? GET A LIFE WOMAN!!

At February 25, 2007 7:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

it makes me sick to my stomach that you think after 33 years an alderman would have to lie about something like people disgust me.

At February 25, 2007 9:31 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey JS, tonight on the Tom Roeser show Russ Stewart, who had previously predicted that Brewer would force a run-off, now predicts that Naisy will force a run-off and be victorious.

At February 26, 2007 9:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Russ Stewart is a idiot. If you believe him watch what happens on 2/27

At February 26, 2007 10:33 AM, Anonymous willow9 aka Wendy said...

Anonymous said...
what i want to know is how naisy can say that her campaign does not foster hatred when one of her main supporters (willow9 aka wendy) is the biggest hater of them all?? all she knows how to do is hate on every blog?? GET A LIFE WOMAN!!

February 25, 2007 1:58 PM

to anonymous: Why do I hate? what happened?

At March 01, 2007 8:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey i heard aftab disapeard without paying his volunteers


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