Friday, May 18, 2007

A Youthful Winston Towers?

One commenter writes: "winston towers is a lot younger than you think." I made a call to test that contention.

What I got in response to my inquiry was a breakdown, not by age (which is what I asked for) but by Decades, and the percentages of voters from Winston Towers who were born in those decades. This table gives the results:

Decade   Percentage
1980s     3.54
1970s     7.19
1960s     4.79
1950s     9.01
1940s     13.32
1930s     17.16
1920s     26.36
1910s     17.64
1900s     0.96

Fully 75% of the voters in Winston Towers are senior citizens (more if you use the AARP definition). But 45% of the voters there (including the alderman) are what is sometimes called the "old old." This does not necessarily mean that they will leave the ward before the next election, but I don't think you can really say, Winston Towers is a lot younger than you think. The voters there are in advanced age, which is a good reason why Stone does well there. Across the ward, voters over 65 tended to support Stone strongly.

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At May 19, 2007 9:30 AM, Blogger Hugh said...

> Across the ward, voters over 65 tended to support Stone strongly.

may I ask, what is your source on this?


At May 19, 2007 11:26 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What twisted nonsense are you putting out there in your increasingly over-the -top posting??? You made a "call"???To whom?? You are now attempting a scapegoating of the people who reside at Winston Towers and who pay huge property taxes, which go to support our schools and other vital municipal services and functions. Your statements and generational breakdowns are pure falsehoods! Winston Towers is getting younger,but that isn't the issue---The issue is that the Stone-Haters and Whacky-Lefties must have a scapegoat for their defeat, and a rallying point to keep their fight going,so, as one who admits to being in their camp,YOU are becoming their Minister of Propaganda;YOU are employing GOEBBLES tactics using scapegoats and the BIG LIE!

At May 20, 2007 1:45 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the old folks at Winston Towers really cared about how their property taxes were being spent they wouldn't have supported Stone but I guess they are too busy sending unsigned letters to younger WR residents about entertaining after 9PM or God forbid having having their toddlers swim in the pool to see they damage they caused by giving Scoundrel Stone another term on the City Council!

Of course you should be scapegoated. YOU ARE THE MISFORTUNE OF THE 50THWARD!

At May 20, 2007 8:01 PM, Blogger Jay said...

Dear "Anonymous"

I'm shocked that you would ask who I called! The reason why we allow anonymity here is because the alderman's well-deserved reputation for being vicious and petty towards those who dare to disagree. Anyone I would choose to call can trust me to protect them, for that very reason.

Your accusation that anyone is scapegoating here is inane. You may not realize this, but we live in America. In America, people are allowed to vote for who they want! We may not like who won an election (Bush, Stone, like there's much difference here), but most of us don't go around attacking other people just because of who won.

Clearly, I am not speaking of Ilana. She'll attack anyone.

You don't seem to understand why people deconstruct the past. That's okay. But it makes me wonder why you continue to read. I thought the belief that Winston Towers is getting younger was an interesting proposition, so I looked into it. The facts don't support that contention, but it was interesting, nonetheless.

What is odd, as someone who supports Stone, why you would want to believe that the Towers are getting younger. Seems to me that a younger electorate hurts Stone, and hurts him significantly. There's a reason why Noonan sent people around with info about voter's ages. People who remember Stone in the Seventies are much more likely to support him than those who don't. If the Towers are getting younger, Stone is in trouble.

At May 21, 2007 10:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

the reason you were asked who you called was to verify how ACCURATE your (secret) source is.You really are a master propagandist-to twist that simple question into a segway to make another FALSE accusation against Stone is really beyond belief. You are making an attempt at keeping the generational bigotry,so evident in the Anti-Stone campaigns,alive.

At May 22, 2007 6:11 AM, Blogger Jay said...

Uh-huh. But it's not "secret" information, it's that dreaded public record that you are so afraid of, which you seem to want to keep a secret. No one asks you to trust it. You can verfify it yourself!

One approach would be to actually do the research. You seem to be tight with the alderman, who has access to this information (probably even in the 50th Ward!). Another approach would be to go down to the Board of Elections. There are other ways, of course, but these are your best bets. If that was your purpose, then you could easily verify the information yourself.


At May 22, 2007 12:33 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FALSE assertion by you that anybody is afraid of the Public Record is another attempt to mislead your readers. The Public Record ,you claim to have consulted,is being used by yourself and others to continue to falsely lead the readers of this blog to untrue, negative conclusions.
As for your ongoing attempt to scapegoat Winston Towers ,its obvious that had the residents of the Towers voted differently,they would not be the target of you and your BIGOTTED Fellow Travelers. Jay,you're not in good company.

At May 22, 2007 1:23 PM, Blogger Jay said...

LOL. I'd imagine that if I supported Stone I wouldn't want people looking at the public record, either! I agree with the sentiment that it is embarrassing to Stone (and those who support him).

You continue to assert that the public record is being misused, but you never offer anything other than your own belief. As if anyone would take your word for it.

At May 22, 2007 3:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats funny!!
I live in the Towers and no one ever called me or my friends. I dont understand where the information is coming from. Do you have the names of the people called? How many people were actually called for this survey?

At May 22, 2007 4:31 PM, Blogger Jay said...

It was taken from voter registration data not from a poll.

At May 22, 2007 5:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I made a call to test that contention.

What I got in response to my inquiry was a breakdown, not by age (which is what I asked for) but by Decades, and the percentages of voters from Winston Towers who were born in those decades. This table gives the results:

Who made the calls???
You started the blog. Daaaaa

At May 23, 2007 8:58 AM, Blogger Hugh said...

> Across the ward, voters over 65 tended to support Stone strongly.


I take it you don't what to say where you got this?

it's common knowledge, right?

everybody knows it's true?

At May 23, 2007 10:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know for a fact that many people under the age of 45 were also for Stone. I believe whoever is getting these facts that only the people over 65 are for Stone is incorrect. i have also run into seniors who are not for stone. So the statement is totally wrong.

At May 23, 2007 3:10 PM, Blogger Jay said...

I don't know that anyone is saying that.

At May 23, 2007 3:41 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why start this blog/ You are clearly a dumb ass !!
Get your facts together before you start writing, just like all the othert topics you start you really dont have a clue. Your a dumb ass !!


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