The Mayor and Aldertrack
This past week, the Mayor has been meeting with the campaigns that he is actively supporting in the run-offs. His involvement has been his usual for run-off elections since 1991: meeting with the candidates, their campaign staff and key supporters, offering strategic advice and outlining his involvement for the next couple of weeks.
I have not heard that Ald. Stone was on this list (I specifically asked). This doesn't mean that he wasn't, but I've not heard that he was. Perhaps the Mayor has decided that he ran so strong in the Municipal that Stone doesn't need his help. Perhaps the Mayor has cut Stone loose. But this puts this item at Aldertrack into context:
You Heard It Here First
An informed source suggests the following incumbent alderman will not prevail on April 17th:
Ald. Stone (50th)
These predictions are, of course, subject to change.
Could that informed source be the Mayor or someone close to him?
The Mayor has one of the best political minds in the city. He's also extremely practical. He's been known to seduce "reformers" and other anti-machine victors before, even incorporating them into the Chicago machine after they've taken office. Everyone knows that Naisy Dolar came out of the Mayor's office to run for alderman. It makes you wonder if the Mayor doesn't come out of this race a winner either way. But if the Mayor isn't giving Stone his strongest support, it will be interesting to see how well those precinct captains do who are more loyal to the Mayor.
The Mayor's lack of involvement, if true, might explain why Dolar has been filing A-1s (disclosure reports of contributions of $500 or more) and Stone hasn't. If the word is out there that Berny is vulnerable and he no longer has the support of the biggest player in Chicago, maybe Aldertrack's "informed source" is right.
Or it could just be that Stone's fear of a fair and impartial debate caught up with him!
posted by Jay @ 7:12 AM
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25 Comments:
here is an example of you sitting at your computer and thinking you have IT all figured out--if you truly believe what you posted ,YOU DO HAVE COGNITIVE DISSONANCE!MAYOR DALEY is strongly backing ALDERMAN STONE'S RE-ELECTION!your dislike of STONE has you drinking naisy KOOL-AID-AMAZING! AFTER YOU BASHED HER FOR BREWER
"The Mayor's lack of involvement, if true, might explain why Dolar has been filing A-1s ... and Stone hasn't."
It could also be that Stone hasn't been filing A-1s because they haven't been required until today. The period from Jan. 29 to March 18 is covered by the pre-election report due April 2. Today begins the the 30 day period preceding the election during which A-1s must be filed. Naisy's campaign probably misunderstood the requirements.
Campaign Disclosure Calendar
Is this the same Aldertrack that thinks Joe Moore and Don Gordon is a toss-up?
Stone is vulnerable and he no longer has the support he used to. It's not a question of age or senior citenzenship, it's a case of him not caring one darn bit anymore about why he got the job.
The 50th ward voters no longer see him as effective. He and his croanies still do hings the same old way. This includes voting for the elderly in nursing homes, retirment homes and stealing signs from peoples lawns.
These lemmings have enjoyed cash payouts for years. Times are changing.
You called it right - not Jay Stone.
On behalf of the Stone campaign I contacted the Dolar campaign and extended an invitation for a debate between Alderman Stone and Naisy Dolar on April 12, 2007 from 7:00-8:00 p.m. The format is:
Opening Statement by Candidates
Questions from the Audience
Closing Statements by the Candidates
The debate is sponsored by:
Peterson Park Improvement Association
Jewish Community Council of West Rogers Park
Pakistan American Business Association
The Dolar campaign manager has not confirmed their attendance as of
this date.
Michael C. Moses
cognitive dissonance seems to be a big theme with you
do you know what it means?
> filing A-1s ... haven't been required until today
> Naisy's campaign probably misunderstood the requirements.
Naisy's campaign EXCEEDED the disclosure requirements.
Meanwhile Stone is in his rose garden.
You know if what you're saying here is true than this might well explain why many Dolar supporters are also very fond of the Mayor. Hell, by my house there is even a household that has taken the Daley / Stone sign and made it a Daley / Dolar sign!
I still plan on voting for Naisy, but this raises my fears that she's either (a.) just a plant for Daley (which I don't find likely - but would explain why the Unions didn't and aren't going to back her) or (b.) when she's elected she'll just be another Daley loyalist.
That second point is the scariest. We'll have gotten rid of Stone but all those that invested in a reform candidate will have been misled. Even worse people will have felt like we made a change and we probably wont be able to get in a true independent reformer for many years to come.
Naisy! Listen up! We need someone that will fight "TIFs" aka slushfunds. We need someone that will not sell out our schools to privatization (aka "charter schools") and we need someone that will fight for social justice.
As for campaign cash, an old friend of mine who has been campaigning against the machine for at least 35 years and is now a suburban GOP committeeman once told me, "they will spend whatever it takes. If you raise $20k they will come up with $30k, if you raise another $10k, they will come up with an additional $20k. They will spend whatever it takes."
I don't think that Alderman Stone will find himself strapped for cash.
As for campaign disclosure, has anyone asked how much of Dolar's money is coming from out-of-state?
Several of the national Asian-American orgs. are boasting of their support for her. One says that it is holding a fundraiser for her on Ap 10th and is doing all of her fancy computer graphics.
Just what do these national ethnic based groups expect to get for their money?
Is it affirmative action for admission preference to already overrepresented Asian students? Is it more cash set-asides on the government gravy train for Asian businesses?
Not being Asian why am I expected to get overly excited about a candidate who places this high on her agenda?
Why is no one asking these questions?
COGNITIVE DISSONANCE: WHEN YOU WANT SOMETHING TO BE A CERTAIN WAY,OR FOR THE OUTCOME OF A SITUATION TO BE WHAT YOU WANT IT TO BE,YOU SEE THINGS IN THE WRONG CONTEXT,SOMETIMES EVEN SEE IMMAGINARY "things" WHICH ALL FIT PERFECTLY WITH YOUR PERSONAL MINDSET--THIS IS IN EVERY DAY ,NON-ACADEMIC LANGUAGE.FOR EXAMPLE,HUGH HAS CD WHEN IT COMES TO ALD. STONE-EVERY CONCLUSION HE TRIES TO LEAD THE READER TO ,IS HIS ANTI-INCUMBENT CD MANIFESTING ITSELF.HE DOES THE SAME THING,ON A FAR LESSER SCALE TO ALD. MOORE.
Mike Moses - how simple minded do you feel the peole of the 50th are? Do you really think they would fall for this format? Come on now, this allows for Stone backers to line the audience and spoon feed him with predetermined questions.
You're showing your ignorance Mike and it's insulting to everyone. In your defense, we understand you are well compensated for taking this position.
I think an apology is in order.
Hear! Hear!
Mike Moses is full of sh..
He ran against Stone few years ago and lost, then he ran against Lou Lang and lost. Now he thinks that by kissing Ston's (you know what), he can get Stone's blessings for next Alderman. He is a lazy bum and a loser. As far as Pakistan American Business Association
concern, this organization is only on papers. Their so called members don't live in Chicago. Some of them are store owners on Devon but not 50th Ward resisents and Mike Moses is their Attorney (for both organization and members).
And is there any need to explain about Jewish Community Council of West Rogers Park? DA...
Anonymous said...
Mike Moses - how simple minded do you feel the peole of the 50th are? Do you really think they would fall for this format? Come on now, this allows for Stone backers to line the audience and spoon feed him with predetermined questions.
What is to stop Dolar's supports from doing the same. You have debate now or is Naisy afraid to debate?????
Anonymous said...
Stone is vulnerable and he no longer has the support he used to. It's not a question of age or senior citenzenship, it's a case of him not caring one darn bit anymore about why he got the job.
The 50th ward voters no longer see him as effective. He and his croanies still do hings the same old way. This includes voting for the elderly in nursing homes, retirment homes and stealing signs from peoples lawns.
These lemmings have enjoyed cash payouts for years. Times are changing.
You called it right - not Jay Stone.
How about the Dolar worker at 6833 N. Kedzie on 2/27 who was not 100 feet from the polling place. Please repeat task so the police can make an arrest on 4/17.
You know, I think most of us are just sick of being lied to. Stone has been promising the new school for eight years. That's enough!
Anonymous said...
Mike Moses - how simple minded do you feel the peole of the 50th are? What kind of format would we see from the haters at the WRPCO.
Thaere has been nothing but hate coming from there and dolar would have everything preped.Who would want to face those animals?
Canvassing this weekend was very interesting. I got to see the lit that Stone is now dropping. It's really hilarious. It states that Stone turned down a $10,000 pay increase from 1999-2003 and claims his opponent is distorting the record. Now I wonder why Stone's piece gives such specific dates... Gee, could it be because after that (i.e., after the 2003 Aldermanic election) he wrote himself a $20,000 pay increase? (Aparently $10,000 wasn't enough for him.)
Also, one constituent told me a story that perfectly captures the way Stone's office works. He told me that for 3 years he had been calling the Alderman's office asking for a crew to come out and trim the overgrown tree in front of his building. Finally, he gave up and called City Hall directly and a crew came out right away. The next day the Alderman's office calls to take credit for the trimming....
Michael Moses--why won't Alderman Stone participate in a real debate?
I think it is very telling that many of the "Stone-Good for the 50th ward" signs adorning California Avenue have been vandalized by gang graffiti!
Jim in Chicago said...
Canvassing this weekend was very interesting.
Here is the big difference, Stone's
Workers are out and available not just around election time. Nolar workers think they can just come in and talk to people to change minds. It does not work like that.
Anonymous said, "Here is the big difference, Stone's Workers are out and available not just around election time"
Help me understand this better. Are you saying that Stone's people are workers who provide service year-round? You mean they're city employees? You mean they have a financial interest in re-electing Stone? Now I get it. Thanks.
"Here is the big difference, Stone's Workers are out and available not just around election time. Nolar workers think they can just come in and talk to people to change minds. It does not work like that."
Are you really that stupid or do you think the people who read this blog are? Let me try explaining this
V E R Y S L O W L Y:
Stone is the current Alderman. His office is SUPPOSED to respond to constituent requests. The point of my story was that his office not only DIDN'T do that, it tried to take credit when City Hall did.
Dolar is RUNNING for Alderman. The way you do that is you get volunteers (friends, neighbors, others inspired by your campaign) to go out into the Ward and talk to residents on your behalf. I realize that Ald. Stone wouldn't know about that since all his workers are on the city payroll.
Jim in Chicago said...
"Here is the big difference, Stone's Workers are out and available not just around election time. Nolar workers think they can just come in and talk to people to change minds. It does not work like that."
Are you really that stupid or do you think the people who read this blog are? Let me try explaining this
V E R Y S L O W L Y:
Let me explain even slower, I dont work for the city, I dont have a financial interest. Surprise but not everyone who supports the Alderman works for the city, or any other agency. I see that Naisy does not have any financial interest locally as she gets little or no money locally.
We are around the day before and the day after the election, long after you will be back in your shell
anonymous said, "We are around the day before and the day after the election"
Around in what capacity? Doing what? You implied before that you were providing "service". You said "Stone's Workers". So, what workers does Stone have who are not city employees?
Is my COGNITIVE DISSONANCE keeping me from understanding your argument? Explain it one more time, S L O W L Y.
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