Sunday, March 11, 2007

Stone Refuses to Debate

As expected, Ald. Stone has refused to participate in the debate previously announced. Stone's fear of debating his opponents is widely known, so this cannot be considered a surprise.

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18 Comments:

At March 11, 2007 2:21 PM, Blogger Hugh said...

The official excuse is hilarious in its honesty:

The format chosen would allow the challenger to be too well prepared.

 
At March 11, 2007 2:52 PM, Anonymous willow9 said...

from 2-16-06 Reader, "aldermania":

The next day I called Stone and asked why he’d skipped the three candidate forums.

“In boxing the challenger meets the champion in the ring and they fight it out,” he said. “If there’s another challenger, he meets the champion in the ring. If there’s a third, he meets the champion in the ring. Do the three challengers meet the champion in the ring all at once and join up and beat the shit out of him?” He added that he’d be happy to debate all of the candidates—one at a time.

I'm betting his excuse will be "Does the heavyweight fight the featherweight? Of course not you S.O.B.'s!

 
At March 11, 2007 3:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

HUGH,YOU ARE TRAGICALLY HILARIOUS IN YOUR OBSESSIVE HATRED OF STONE.WHAT YOU SHOULD BE CONCERNED WITH IS :HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BETTER MAINTAIN YOUR PROPERTY AND STOP BEING A BLIGHT ON THE BLOCK?SOME PAINT AROUND THE WINDOWS WOULD BE A GOOD START---THAT WOULD BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR-H-U-G-H !!!!!!!!

 
At March 11, 2007 3:54 PM, Blogger Hugh said...

"I offered time and time again to meet each of the candidates in a separate forum and debate them one on one, but it was rejected."

-Bernard L. Stone, candidate for alderman
Pioneer Press News-Star
February 7, 2007

 
At March 11, 2007 4:58 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where do you get this information that the debate is off?

 
At March 11, 2007 5:19 PM, Blogger Jay said...

An email from Mike Moses:

To: West Rogers Park Community
From: Michael C. Moses
Re: WRPCO Forum on March 21, 2007

Alderman Stone will not be participating in the West Rogers Park Community Organization Forum on March 21, 2007.
------

I know, it's a surprise. If you were napping. Maybe it surprised a sleeping Stone!

 
At March 11, 2007 8:48 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stone probably thought the format was going to be more like Avy Meyers' show.

 
At March 11, 2007 11:41 PM, Anonymous Jim in Chicago said...

They should still have the "debate." Naisy on one side of the stage and a chair with a picture of "sleeping Bernie" in the other. Perhaps they could play a recording of someone snoring in response to each question put to Stone. He deserves no better for this cowardly behavior.

 
At March 12, 2007 9:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In announcing Stone's not-too-surprising decision to not participate in WRPCO's candidates forum, Michael Moses made an interesting claim that has so far been ignored: "Alderman Stone will instead participate in a debate co-sponsored by three or four local community groups in April to be announced."

Has Naisy been invited to this alternate debate? Does the 50th Ward even have three or four other community groups to sponsor such an event? And when in April will this debate take place? I'm sure Stone would prefer sometime after the 17th.

 
At March 12, 2007 10:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

About the "debate":

Would it be right after passover? That would leave less than a week between the end of passover and the election. I can't imagine it being during passover, I guess only Stone knows.

 
At March 12, 2007 11:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"AND STOP BEING A BLIGHT ON THE BLOCK..."

Puh-leese! Let's talk about blight, all courtesy of Alderman Stone:

-The Nortown Theater site
-The chain link fence everywhere in the ward.
- The cars parked on the sidewalk in front of all of the dealerships on Western
- The trash filled city parking lots
- The Harley construction "pit" on Western
-All of the vacant store fronts on Devon, Touhy and Western (filled with Stone signs for easy identification)
- The soon to be vacant Dominick's on Ridge

 
At March 12, 2007 2:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

JAY,JAY, JAY, You're hatred of Stone is approaching HUGH levels.You have imagined an entire scenario,of what YOU THINK,and put it out as if it is fact.HERE ARE FACTS:1)BEATING UP STONE ON AGE IS EVIL AND WICKED-WE ALL GET OLDER IF WE ARE LUCKY 2)STONE'S MIND IS AS SHARP AS EVER AND HE WORKS LONGER AND MORE DIFFICULT DAYS THAN PERSONS HALF HIS AGE 3)HIS STAFF ARE HIGHLY COMPETENT PUBLIC SERVANTS,DOING A DIFFICULT JOB, AND NOT THE SYCOPHANTS YOU ACCUSE THEM OF BEING 4)IF THERE WAS G-D FORBID A CRISIS,YOU WOULD SEE HOW IMPORTANT THE VICE-MAYOR IS 5)STONE IS CHAIRMAN OF THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON BUILDINGS,A TIER ONE COMMITTEE AND HE DOES AN EXCELLENT JOB

 
At March 12, 2007 3:35 PM, Blogger Jay said...

Anon, Anon, Anon, I don't hate anybody. I am deeply disappointed in the performance and incompetence of my elected alderman. I have witnessed first hand his inability to do the job, and I am exercising my freedom of speech to point this out.

Many people of Stone's age perform admirably, even in tougher settings. The stark reality is that Ald. Stone cannot. Perhaps he is just lazy. Perhaps he is exceedingly negligent. The nicest way to put it is that he is old. I am not a witness to whether Stone is lazy or negligent. But his appearance in person, on television, and on his campaign literature makes it obvious that Stone is old and in frail health. Even so, Stone himself made age an issue when he put it out there that Age = Wisdom. Only a hypocrite would criticize people for judging Stone on a characteristic that he has asked us to judge him.

That you believe that Stone's mind is sharp only tells me that you have much lower standards for mental acuity than I. I have witnessed Stone ramble through a speech. I have seen those CAN-TV appearances where Stone could only be described as bewildered. Perhaps Ald. Stone was never that sharp, but I seem to remember otherwise. You could argue, if you like, that his thought process was always this bad. I tend to give him the benefit of the doubt here. I don't believe that Stone has always been this bad. Again, I rely on my own memory.

The contention that Stone works long hours is laughable. Again, I am a witness. He's fallen asleep so often that people take note when he doesn't! I've seen him fall asleep while Jan was speaking, when Ira was talking, when Lou was speaking, I've even seen him fall asleep when the Mayor was addressing us! I've seen Stone fall asleep in the afternoon, I've seen him nap before noon. I suppose that if you count his frequent naps as working, and maybe HE DOES, then you might have a point. I don't. Frankly, I see no evidence that he does much work at all.

My experience with his staff also leads me to a different conclusion. They are clearly patronage workers who think they don't need to work at all! Highly competent? Only at stealing from we taxpayers. If they were competent, you wouldn't hear so many complaints about cracked sidewalks, broken curbs, felled trees, or all the trash that swirls around the ward. If they were competent, we would need an SSA for Devon.

If there were a crisis, you can be sure that Dick Mell or Ed Burke would be the ones in charge, not Berny Stone. Personally, I doubt Stone would even be in the mix. And I doubt his Vice-Mayoral status would last more than a couple of days. He's irrelevant in city politics.

None of this should be interpreted that I hate Ald. Stone. He's just not up to the job anymore.

 
At March 12, 2007 4:34 PM, Anonymous willow9 said...

To Jay:

You're right on the money with that last post!

 
At March 14, 2007 1:22 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

JAY,YOU STILL REFUTE THE TRUTH WITH YOUR MADE UP"TRUTH". STONE DOES WORK LONGER AND HARDER DAYS THAN MOST PEOPLE HALF HIS AGE HOW OLD ARE YOU?YOU ONLY PRAY TO LIVE AS LONG AS BERNY STONE AND BE THE POSITIVE FORCE ON THE WARD AND CITY HE IS! YOUR PERSONAL DISLIKE OF STONE GIVES YOU COGNITIVE DISSONANCE AT BEST ,AND INFORMS AND INSPIRES YOUR WILD ,UNTRUE CHARGES ABOUT ALD. STONE ,HIS STAFF ,AND HIS SUPPORTERS-THE ELECTRONIC COMPANY YOU KEEP-HUGH-IS MANIPULATING YOU AND YOUR THOUGHT PROCESSES BECAUSE HE IS A PARASITE FEEDING OFF YOU HAVING THIS SITE---WAKE UP JAY!!!!!!!!

 
At March 14, 2007 7:15 AM, Blogger Jay said...

I use my observations and experience to find the truth, capsman. You, on the other hand, have nothing but angry words. Stone works hard? Why does he need so much sleep? You would think that if Stone wanted to show that he was a hard worker he would find time to sleep sometime when he's not on the public dime! The facts betray you. It's simple to conclude that Stone is not up to the job, just go watch him! The fact that he won't debate only reinforces my point.

 
At March 14, 2007 5:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: Anon that insists on ALWAYS USING CAPITAL LETTERS!

Jay does not hate Stone. You mix up hate with disgust. Like Jay, I am disugusted with Stone and he needs to go.

As for you, I recommend that you professional help about the SHOUTING you are doing when typing your replies. Your emotions are showing. Tsk, tsk, tsk.

Sounds to me that maybe you're worried or maybe related to Stone. Hmmm, who could that be?

Maybe I'm being too harsh on you and you have a cheap keyboard with the CAPS STUCK TO THE ON position ... but I doubt it.

 
At March 14, 2007 7:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

JAY,I AM ANGRY-IAM ANGRY AT ATTEMPTS TO SMEAR A GOOD,DECENT,HONORABLE,AND HONEST MAN!!! I AM ANGRY BECAUSE YOU AND HANK MORRIS THINK BECAUSE YOU "OWN" A SITE YOU CAN POST ANY UNTRUE ALLEGATION AND THEN SPIN IT ;I AM ANGRY BECAUSE YOU ARE SO BITTER TOWARDS STONE THAT THE SAME NAISY DOLAR THAT YOU BARBEQUED PRE 2/27 ,YOU NOW HAIL BECAUSE AFTER ALL ,FOR YOU ITS "ABS". WHAT IS SO HYPNOTIZING,JAY, ABOUT "NAISY'S EXCELLENT ADVENTURE"THAT YOU NOW BUY INTO WHAT YOU REJECTED,PUBLICALLY,JUST 2 WEEKS AGO?

 

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