Monday, March 12, 2007

Why Stone is Too Scared to Debate

As reported yesterday, Ald. Stone has refused to debate Naisy Dolar. This cannot be a surprise. Despite Stone's previous statement(s), no one who's been paying attention to Stone and his reign over this community could believe that he would debate. It's not just that Stone would have to defend his record of failure and neglect. Nor is it because Naisy Dolar would outperform Stone in a one-on-one setting. There are at least three other reasons why Stone won't debate.

First of all, Berny Stone is old. A format that lasts longer than a few minutes will expose Stone's frailty. Take a look at Stone's appearances on CAN-TV. Despite the most favorable environment possible, Stone often looks disoriented or confused. There hasn't been an appearance in years where the host did not have to complete many of Stone's sentences for him.

It's not just that Stone is old, but it looks like he has lost some of his mental faculties. A debate threatens to expose Stone's physical and mental state. He might even fall asleep! Every time (except once) that I've seen Stone in the last few years he fell asleep. Not that he didn't wake up in time for his turn at the podium. But he fell asleep nonetheless. He's not up to a debate, let alone up for the job.

Secondly, Berny Stone is weak. Not just physically or mentally. Stone is weak politically. There's a reason that the 50th is dead last in capitol spending. It's because Stone doesn't have the power, influence or will to bring money here. The 50th is an afterthought in the city of Chicago. While other wards have powerful aldermen like Ed Burke or Dick Mell, the 50th has Berny Stone. Good Ole Berny. While other wards have energetic aldermen like Tom Tunney or Marianne Smith, the 50th has Berny Stone. He's willing to go along to get along. You won't see the supporters of other aldermen excusing the inability of their alderman to deliver for their wards. They have a can-do spirit. Need help? They want to deliver. They know that a satisfied community is a happy and supportive community.

There's a reason why Berny Stone is the honorific Vice Mayor instead of the chairman of a powerful committee. Good Ole Berny! Think about it. When Burt Natarus wanted the street musicians moved out of the glamour portion of his ward, they didn't return. But when Berny Stone wanted the street vendors moved out of the 50th, they just laid low for awhile. They eventually returned. No harm done. Good Ole Berny. Berny does what the Mayor or Mike Madigan tells him to do. He's a reliable supporter for whatever the real leaders of Chicago want.

The fact that Berny is weak politically is the reason that he has to bring in machine workers from other wards to help him out. It's why he had to hire people from Skokie to sit outside the polls or walk the streets on election day. Berny Stone is probably the weakest of all the aldermen-committeemen combinations in Chicago. Everyone knows they have to carry Berny Stone. And they do.

But that's not good for the 50th. It's not even good for Chicago!

Finally, Berny Stone is a coward. Think about it. When was the last time Stone faced an opponent without an incredible show of support by his supporters? If you go to his office hours, you are surrounded by Stone's sycophants. Stone doesn't face his opponents, and certainly not opponents who are on equal footing (by virtue of both being on the ballot). He would much rather use his semi-official mouthpiece as a crutch. At least if he forgets what he's saying (or the topic at hand), Avy can step in and complete the sentence!

Berny Stone won't debate because he's afraid, he's weak and he's old. A real debate would expose all his weaknesses, and demonstrate none of his self-proclaimed strengths. A real debate would expose Berny Stone as an incapable alderman who's just holding on to the job, ostensibly so that he can pass it along to his daughter.

That's sure not good for the 50th!

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40 Comments:

At March 12, 2007 7:31 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In interviews, I think his cell phone goes off, not because he forgot to silence it, but because he uses it as an alarm clock.
What happens to that ridiculous "Vice Mayor" job if Stone goes? He gets over $100,000.00 per year for doing nothing, doesn't he?

 
At March 12, 2007 9:46 AM, Blogger Hugh said...

> What happens to that ridiculous "Vice Mayor" job if Stone goes?

WHEN Stone goes, the Vice Mayor post will go to another alderman. The aldermen select a vice mayor from among themselves.

The aldermen may revisit the Vice Mayor post after the new Council is sworn in in May.

 
At March 12, 2007 9:49 AM, Blogger Hugh said...

> for doing nothing

The office of Vice Mayor of Chicago has no known programs, and no services of benefit to taxpayers or citizens, other than waiting around for the Mayor to kick. Yet it costs taxpayers $105K/year.

 
At March 12, 2007 9:52 AM, Blogger Hugh said...

> He gets over $100,000.00 per year for doing nothing, doesn't he?

As Vice Mayor Stone has complete discretion over a $105K/year budget. What does he choose to do with it? Create two patronage jobs:

* Alan Crown, a fixture in Stone's ward office, and Stone's campaign manager

* Mary Ann Roti Walz, presumably an employee in Stone's downtown office, and daughter of the former made-man Alderman Fred Roti

 
At March 12, 2007 10:05 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hear that Stone has been hospitalized several times in the last month or so. They're trying to keep it quiet, but his health is a real concern. Of course, being in a coma didn't stop Stroger from getting re-elected.

 
At March 12, 2007 10:15 AM, Blogger Jay said...

I've heard the same thing. Stone's health is a real issue, and is the major reason that Ilana is also a legitimate issue in this campaign.

 
At March 12, 2007 10:29 AM, Anonymous willow9 said...

How long has Stone been drawing that "Vice Mayor" paycheck? I believe he only had to exercise his duties once or twice.

 
At March 12, 2007 10:47 AM, Blogger Hugh said...

> How long has Stone been drawing that "Vice Mayor" paycheck?

His fellow Aldermen selected Stone as their Vice-Mayor on May 7, 2003, by a voice vote.

ELECTION OF ALDERMAN BERNARD L. STONE AS VICE-MAYOR FOR 2003 -- 2007 TERM.

 
At March 12, 2007 10:48 AM, Blogger Hugh said...

> I believe he only had to exercise his duties once or twice.

No. Stone has never done anything vaguely related to his duties as Vice Mayor.

 
At March 12, 2007 10:55 AM, Blogger Hugh said...

Understanding Chicago's Vice Mayor

Hello Jay,

Some of your readers may be interested in learning more about the office of Vice Mayor of Chicago. Here are some links:

01: City Law

02: State Law

03: selection

04: Stone's selection

05: Interim Mayor

06: Interim Mayor in Action

07: Costs and Benefits

08: Back-up back-up chair

09: bagels and donuts

10: Machine Hack

11: Meet Chicago's REAL Vice Mayors

Thanks!

 
At March 12, 2007 11:16 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! Now I'm curious whether or not those two vice-mayoral "employees" actually show up for work. If they don't, wouldn't that constitute fraud? Is it possible to FOIA timesheets?

 
At March 12, 2007 12:11 PM, Anonymous Jim in Chicago said...

Time to have someone in a chicken suit trail Bernie, or stand outside his office if he isn't circulating around the Ward. It worked wonders against George Bush Sr. in 1992.... (And don't forget that Bernie decided he was a Republican for a while during the Harold Washington administration.)

P.S. Loved the point on the last thread about Bernie helpfully marking all the vacant storefronts on Western, Touhy, and Devon with his campaign signs. Maybe he should adopt Bart Simpson's motto as a campaign slogan: "Underachiever -- and proud of it!"

 
At March 12, 2007 2:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stone has already admitted that he does not view his consitiuents as a "professional audience" per below.

=======
"(The challengers) want to gang up on me three against one. The only
place we went three against one was at the (Chicago) Tribune editorial board and I held my own before a professional audience, more than what could have happened before non-professionals," he added.
=======

How stupid of me.

I feel so embarrased.

I did not understand - but now I get it!

"professional audience" has multiple meanings in the Stone dictionary:

Definition:
"Professional audience": People that attend a meeting and are compensated for asking specific questions to make the candidate
look good"

Antonym:
"Non-professional audience": Constituents in the 50th ward that do not warrant face time. Also see 'voters'.

 
At March 12, 2007 3:40 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is a little info on our Candidate Naisy Dolar. Why has the SEIU giving dolar all this money for her campaign?? Maybe IF she wins, this is to sway a vote for the big box?? Even with all the bad literature against Stone the SEIU never endorsed Dolar.

SEIU Illinois Council PAC $11,400.00 1/29/2007 Neighbors for Naisy Dolar
SEIU Illinois Council PAC $3,000.00 1/29/2007 Neighbors for Naisy Dolar

 
At March 12, 2007 4:27 PM, Anonymous willow9 said...

>Anonymous said...
Here is a little info on our Candidate Naisy Dolar. Why has the SEIU giving dolar all this money for her campaign?? Maybe IF she wins, this is to sway a vote for the big box?? Even with all the bad literature against Stone the SEIU never endorsed Dolar.

SEIU Illinois Council PAC $11,400.00 1/29/2007 Neighbors for Naisy Dolar
SEIU Illinois Council PAC $3,000.00 1/29/2007 Neighbors for Naisy Dolar

March 12, 2007 3:40 PM

You call the SEIU ($14,400.00) all that money?

Look at the 10:55am links Hugh posted. Stone gets that for doing NOTHING!! It's a slap in the face to every tax payer, and is probably a big joke in city council meetings.

 
At March 12, 2007 4:33 PM, Blogger Hugh said...

Here is a little info on our Candidate Bernard L. Stone. Why has the Buildings Owners and Managers Association giving Stone all this money for his campaign?? Maybe IF he wins, this is to sway a vote on sprinklers??

Buuilding Owners and Managers Assoc.
120 S. LaSalle Street
Ste. 1400
Chicago, IL 60603

$5,000.00 2/16/2007

BOMA
120 S. LaSalle Street
ste. 1400
Chicago, IL 60603

$2,000.00 2/26/2003

 
At March 12, 2007 4:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats rite Stone has supporters dolar has peanuts. All dolars support comes from out of state.
Or she hires help from Chicago craigs list. Check out the ad she placed.

 
At March 12, 2007 4:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

desperate Dolar. Check out the site.

http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/etc/280221090.html

 
At March 12, 2007 5:13 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

willow9 said...
>Anonymous said...
Here is a little info on our Candidate Naisy Dolar. Why has the SEIU giving dolar all this money for her campaign?? Maybe IF she wins, this is to sway a vote for the big box?? Even with all the bad literature against Stone the SEIU never endorsed Dolar.

SEIU Illinois Council PAC $11,400.00 1/29/2007 Neighbors for Naisy Dolar
SEIU Illinois Council PAC $3,000.00 1/29/2007 Neighbors for Naisy Dolar

March 12, 2007 3:40 PM



That was for a poll that SEIU Commissioned. Not direct money to her. If you want to seereal help it is the direct money to her fund not services.

 
At March 12, 2007 11:47 PM, Anonymous anonymost said...

End the Stone Age!! Support Naisy Dolar!

 
At March 13, 2007 4:11 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not sure where you are finding that money from SEIU. SEIU is not supporting Naisy Dolar now nor were they before the February 27th election.

 
At March 13, 2007 9:34 PM, Anonymous Justin said...

The same inkind contribution appears on Brewer's D2 by SEIU:
SEIU Illinois Council PAC $11,400.00 1/29/2007
SEIU Illinois Council PAC $3,000.00 1/29/2007

SEIU paid for all negative mailings against Berney and divided among Naisy and Greg.

Justin

 
At March 14, 2007 1:33 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

you Stone bashers ,are fools who do not have the ward's best interest in mind--to replace an Alderman,the Vice Mayor,with a FRESHMAN who will have no seniority and have to take whatever they want to give her(certainly no committee chairs and no major committee assignments)is ridiculous---that anyone in this community thinks their personal lives will improve by being hypnotized by "Naisy's Excellent Adventure" is LUDICRIOUS! Dolar doesn't want to represent you-she wants OUR SEAT as her launch pad to pursue a RACE-BASED AGENDA!!

 
At March 14, 2007 7:08 AM, Blogger Jay said...

Anonymous: how has our community benefitted from Stone being the Vice-Mayor OR chairing a major committee? Our streets are dirtier than any other ward I visit in the city. We look more run-down than anywhere else in the city. We have an absolutely filthy appearance on our major roads. And what has Stone done? I see no benefit to anyone but Stone for these "accomplishments."

 
At March 14, 2007 7:10 AM, Anonymous willow9 said...

>RACE-BASED AGENDA!!

That would be Naisy Dolar improving the 50th ward for people of ALL races and cultures.

 
At March 14, 2007 9:14 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sleeping at committee meetings and not using your full aldermanic menu money for the improvement of the ward is Berny's style. Berny insists he is good for the 50th, but I want better for the 50th.

 
At March 14, 2007 10:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay
Maybe you should live in New York and then you will know what dirty streets are. Maybe you shouldnt throw you trash out the window.My streets seem to be very clean, as well as the city.

 
At March 15, 2007 6:38 AM, Blogger Jay said...

All I asked was how our community benefits from Stone's position as Vice-Mayor or his seniority? I shouldn't have to travel to New York to get an answer. It should be simple and obvious, and it is! We don't benefit. Stone does, but we don't. So sad.

 
At March 15, 2007 11:11 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay said...
Our streets are dirtier than any other ward I visit in the city. We look more run-down than anywhere else in the city. We have an absolutely filthy appearance on our major roads. And what has Stone done?
This is the reason you should live in New York. You would appreciate living in such a clean City?Ward as ours. Maybe you should read what you wrote before you respond.

 
At March 15, 2007 11:34 AM, Blogger Jay said...

Or we could elect someone who will work towards a cleaner and safer community! No need to move at all. That's what elections are for! Stone is apparently not up for the job, and you are eager to excuse that. No need for other voters to overlook his ineffectiveness.

 
At March 15, 2007 12:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay:
Everyone has the rite to their own opinion, and mine is we do live in a clean City. The Mayor has been praised for a clean green City. It seems that you jump form one issue when stumped to a different one . Now were on safer community?
As I said to each his own.

 
At March 15, 2007 12:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay;
By the way no one said you should move to New York, appreciate what we have here. I don’t think Dolar will be in a street sweeper cleaning our streets or trimming our trees. How will she change that?? Too many promises she can’t keep. She will have to be in office for 4 years just to get all the contacts and gain a relation ship and knowledge she needs.

 
At March 15, 2007 12:32 PM, Blogger Jay said...

You appear to be more tolerant of filth than I. When I see the rat warning signs (which I don't find in other wards I visit), I am disgusted. I have no idea why you are more accepting of that than I am. But I do associate clean and safe together in my neighborhood.

 
At March 15, 2007 2:51 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay,here's your cognitive dissonnance (if you really believe what you write) on display--RAT WARNING SIGNS are in ALL WARDS in Chicago!The only way to obliterate the need to warn of the POSSIBILITY of rats would be to ban ALL things rats COULD BE attracted to---an IMPOSSIBILITY!

 
At March 15, 2007 4:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay
I don’t know where you live or what ward you visit but I can truly say I DONT live in filth. Are you homeless? Do you live in the ally?
It is truly a shame that some residents cant even clean behind their own homes. I don’t believe this is the responsibility of the city to maintain behind peoples property, which I have seen, filthy.

 
At March 15, 2007 11:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I finally GET IT-Hugh's BLIGHT exists so he can blame Stone--If,"good neighbor"Hugh didn't "have to" wage his SMEAR CAMPAIGN,against Stone,he then could turn into MISTER PROPERTY MAINTAINER- HOW CLEVER,Hugh-PUZZLE ANSWERED!!

 
At March 16, 2007 6:58 AM, Blogger Jay said...

The rat problem seems to have gotten worse recently. Another sign of Stone's neglect (or unwillingness to do his job). If the alderman or his staff were doing their jobs, I wouldn't complain. But I don't see any evidence of that being the case. I don't remember it ever being this bad. It's disgusting.

 
At March 16, 2007 3:36 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jay:
Please get out of the garbage cans where the RATS live.Really. Rats like the warm weather so I dont see any problem of rats. Lets get real.The only rat here is you.

 
At March 16, 2007 8:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been to NYC. Great town! But they have no alleys(allys?duh). So there is garbage piled up in front of the stores, waiting to get picked up. Chicago has alleys, though. Devon Avenue is filthy. What's the excuse?

 
At March 16, 2007 10:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

People dont know how to use a trash can??

 

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